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Subject: Media Release - VIEWERS SAY ‘NO’ NEW ZEALAND DOES NOT NEED MORE MINING ON TV3’S NATIONAL DEBATE
PROGRAMME ‘THE VOTE’
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 09:11:50 +0000
From: Rachel Lorimer
To: Rachel Lorimer
MEDIA RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Wednesday 6 November, 2013
Viewers Say ‘No’ New Zealand Does Not Need More Mining on TV3’s National Debate Programme ‘the Vote’
Should New Zealand protect its 100% Pure brand and ride the wave of a global clean-tech revolution? Or do we back a
growing energy industry that will create jobs, raise wages and keep some of our best and brightest from seeking a better
life across the Tasman?
Tonight Kiwis voted NO to the moot ‘New Zealand needs more mining’ during national debate programme, The Vote, which
screened on TV3.
Guyon Espiner and the Negative team were declared the winners of the debate at the end of the hour-long show with the
votes tallied at 46% YES, 54% NO.
Energy and Resources Minister, Simon Bridges said in response to the vote that the Government would push for more mining
in a third term, but conceded in the unlikely event of a major oil spill it would take clean-up ships two weeks to reach
New Zealand and begin addressing the problem.
Viewer votes:
Facebook
Twitter Website Text TOTAL
32% YES
68% NO
40% YES
60% NO
44% YES
56% NO
49% YES
51% NO 46% YES
54% NO
The theatre audience voted before and after the debate. The results are:
Theatre audience vote – prior to debate
Theatre audience vote – end of debate
39% YES
41% NO
20% UNDECIDED 40% YES
55% NO
5% UNDECIDED
Dubbed ‘competitive current affairs’, The Vote sees co-hosts Duncan Garner and Guyon Espiner each month lead two teams
to debate a hot topic, with Linda Clark keeping order as referee.
In tonight’s debate, a coin toss decided Duncan Garner would lead the ‘For’ team, with Bathurst Resources CEO Hamish
Bohannan, Grey District Mayor Tony Kokshoorn, and David Robinson, CEO of PEPANZ (the Petroleum Exploration and
Production Association of New Zealand). Joining Guyon Espiner on the ‘Against’ team were Green Party co-leader Dr Russel
Norman, Greenpeace New Zealand’s Managing Director Bunny McDiarmid and Gisborne District councillor Manu Caddie.
The arguments FOR:
• There’s somewhere about 6700 jobs in the mining sector in New Zealand today, and hopefully that’ll increase shortly.
The average wage in the mining sector is about $105,000 per annum. That compares to the average wage of New Zealand of
about 52, so it’s over double what the rest of New Zealand is earning … At the moment it’s a four billion dollar
industry. - Hamish Bohannan
• In the New Zealand area [the amount mined is] 0.1 of 1%; that is all. Of the whole land mass of New Zealand. On the
West Coast a strip of mining, if you put it together in one paddock it would be seven kilometres by two kilometres only.
If you drove all the way from Karamea to Haast which is the same distance from Wellington to Auckland, you won’t even
see mining that’s how small it is. Our area is just full of rainforests. - Tony Kokshoorn
• I think an oil spill would be a very, very serious matter for New Zealand, and I can understand New Zealanders being
very concerned about that. When you’ve seen the pictures of the Gulf of Mexico and that’s all you know about the
petroleum sector, you’d be very frightened about something like that happening here. - David Robinson
• Yes there’s an element of greed and complacency that actually attributed to [the Pike River] disaster … the industry’s
a dangerous industry but it’s always been a dangerous industry … If you mine safely under health and safety rules today,
everything’s ok. But complacency and the checks and balances weren’t in the mine, and the inevitable happened. - Tony
Kokshoorn
• The risks are incredibly low. We haven’t had a fatality in this industry for more than 15 years, there’s not many
other industries in New Zealand that can claim that. We’ve never had a major incident here in New Zealand. Even if we
look at the Gulf of Mexico there have been two significant blowouts there. One in 1979 and the one we all know about in
2010. - David Robinson
• They wanted the Resource Management Act; they campaigned right through the ‘80s. In 1991, the Resource Management Act
comes into play. By the time you’ve jumped through all the hoops; and the Resource Management Act with the judges, the
commissioners, and then you have to go through another two years of Forest and Bird and the Greens throwing spanners in
the works. - Tony Kokshoorn
• We’re not ruining wildlife, we are creating jobs. We are creating well-paid jobs in an industry that is very viable. -
Hamish Bohannan
The arguments AGAINST:
• The International Energy Agency has said that if we want to avoid out of control climate change, more than two
degrees, then most of the existing oil and coal reserves have to stay in the ground. So it’s grossly irresponsible to go
and find more and start digging them up and releasing that carbon because that means we’re giving our kids an out of
control climate. - Russel Norman
• The New Zealand government subsidises this business by about 50 million dollars a year. - Russel Norman
• If anyone needs jobs it’s probably the East Coast. These communities are saying the risk is too great. They rely on
the water and the land to live off; you know it’s their sustenance, and so they’re saying risk is too great to put all
that at stake. - Manu Caddie
• Deep sea drilling is the most risky of the oil industry. It’s going to depths that we have not had a production well
in New Zealand ever at … We’re not prepared at all. I mean most of us remember the Rena which is a tiny spill in
relation to a major blowout; we would have to get help from overseas that would take weeks to get here. In the time it
would take to get here our way of lives, our fisheries, our coastlines; everything could be destroyed. - Bunny McDiarmid
• Well I think you’ve just got to look at the existing industries and the existing numbers, I mean mining employs
directly about 6700, 6800 people. Food production employs directly about 69,000 people, Tourism employs about 110,000
people. Now tourism and food production both are entirely dependent on our clean, green brand. If we destroy the clean,
green brand we undermine the job security for about 200,000 people directly and many, many more indirectly. If you want
to talk about exports, more than 50% of our exports are either food or tourism; both industries absolutely dependent on
the clean, green brand that the oil industry is putting at risk. So in terms of just basic numbers, why would you put
all of that at risk for a very small number of jobs? - Russel Norman
• This is not about environment vs. economy. This is about choosing energy that allows us to actually look after our
economy, create jobs and have energy. So if we’ve actually got a choice, which New Zealand is really lucky to have a
choice, why do we have to choose something really risky? And it may only be two blowouts in, I don’t know, 100 years,
but one of those blowouts happens off our coast, we are pretty much screwed if it happens the same way. - Bunny
McDiarmid
The full transcript is available at: www.3news.co.nz/TVShows/TheVote/Transcripts.aspx
The Vote is produced by TV3’s News and Current Affairs division with funding from NZ On Air, and screens once every four
weeks in the same timeslot as 3rd Degree.
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