State Dept. Daily Press Briefing for April 5 -- Transcript
Daily Press Briefing
Richard Boucher, Spokesman
Washington, DC
April 5, 2005
INDEX:
ISRAEL/PALESTIANS
Meetings with Dov Weissglas / Issue of Settlements
Israeli Response and U.S. Policy
Reports of U.S. Money for Disengagement / Deputy Prime Minister Peres
Settlements / Obligations Under Roadmap
Arab Human Development Report / Barrier in West Bank
Palestinian Authority / Rights and Freedoms
ZIMBABWE
U.S. Reaction to Elections
U.S. Reaction to Comments from Southern African Development
Community (SADC)
IRAQ
Release of Arab Human Development Report / Security Difficulties
MIDDLE EAST
Report / Identification of Obstacles to Regional Development
SYRIA/LEBANON
Date of Withdrawal Announced
Timely Elections
CHINA
Secretary Zoellick's Comments/ EU Lifting of Embargo
NATO
Appointment of an Ambassador
DEPARTMENT
Announcement By Secretary Rice
NORTH KOREA
Reports on Letter Sent to KEDO
TRANSCRIPT:
12:30 p.m. EDT
MR. BOUCHER: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I don't have any statements or announcements, so I'd be glad to take
questions. Mr. Mackler, suddenly the senior wire correspondent.
QUESTION: How about that?
MR. BOUCHER: Good for you.
QUESTION: (Inaudible) promotions (inaudible) generous, here.
MR. BOUCHER: Yeah.
QUESTION: We understand that, I think it was Mr. Weissglas and Mr. Peres also was at the National Security Council and
the Secretary attended meetings there. There was some discussion of the settlements, and clarifications again were
asked. Can you give us any brief on that and what we learned any more?
MR. BOUCHER: I can't give you much on that. Yes, Mr. Weissglas is in town. I don't think Mr. Peres is in town yet,
although he was headed this way. Whether that's affected by the Pope's funeral or not, I don't know at this point.
I think the important thing about the meetings with Mr. Weissglas is that we are talking about the subjects that will
be discussed further with Prime Minister Sharon next week. That includes how to make progress on Israeli-Palestinian
issues obviously, especially the emphasis being on how to make a success of disengagement from Gaza so that both
Palestinians and Israelis benefit from more security from that step and that it's tied to the roadmap through the
disengagement on the West Bank as well. And then there are a broad range of bilateral issues also to be discussed with
Prime Minister Sharon as he -- when he comes next week. We'll have a number of discussions with the Israelis as these
meetings approach. Yes, the issue of settlements was discussed with Mr. Weissglas, as it always is when we meet with
him. We have noted in the past, noted again, that Israel has made commitments under the roadmap and under the statements
that Prime Minister Sharon has made at Aqaba and elsewhere to stop settlement activity, that we think those are very
important commitments and we expect to see them upheld. So our position on that hasn't changed, but yes, it's been
communicated to the Israelis again.
QUESTION: Can I just follow up on that? Just quickly?
MR. BOUCHER: Yes.
QUESTION: We've been hearing for weeks the United States asking for clarifications. Have you received any satisfactory
clarifications that would be consistent with U.S. policy or is it still at odds with your policy?
MR. BOUCHER: I'm not going to try to characterize the Israeli response at this point. As I said, these are all
discussions leading to a further meeting with Prime Minister Sharon, so it's not really fair to sort of capture somebody
else's position at this moment. I think the Israelis themselves have put out some information on their plans or lack of
plans to move some of these announcements into a more concrete phase.
QUESTION: Was the possibility of providing American money to -- or U.S. money to Israel for disengagement discussed?
Peres has said that that's going to be one of the things Israel is asking for.
MR. BOUCHER: I saw that report. As I said, I'm not quite sure where we stand on the meetings with Foreign -- Deputy
Prime Minister Peres so I don't think I'll have any comment at this point on ideas he may or may not be bringing to us.
Ma'am.
QUESTION: Yes, I was wondering if you have any reaction to Zimbabwe's elections. Some African observers, apparently,
have said that they were free and fair. I'm wondering what the U.S. response is to that.
MR. BOUCHER: I think you'll see from what we have said here and from what the Secretary of State herself said in her
statement, she said in the statement that we issued April 1st. When was that? Last Friday?
STAFF: April 1st.
MR. BOUCHER: That there are some really serious problems with this election. And I think the simple answer is to say,
even before the vote, the playing field was tilted in favor of the government and, as many feared, the vote was not free
nor fair.
For the most part, at this point, the country is peaceful. We're disappointed, however, with the mounting evidence of
fraud. As we noted the other day, ten percent of the would-be voters stated -- were turned away from the polls,
especially in areas that were deemed pro-opposition. There are also reports that opposition poll watchers were not
allowed to witness the vote tabulation in key districts. In some cases, early official counts of total votes cast in
particular districts were lower than the final number of votes awarded to the ruling party candidate.
So I think we've seen the problems with this election mount after the voting. While we noted the voting itself was
orderly, the buildup to the election was tainted by restrictions on the media and the highly charged atmosphere against
the opposition. And unfortunately, as they got to the vote counting, they seem to have distorted the process further and
the opposition is making a lot of charges now that there was all kinds of different fraud.
QUESTION: Are you disappointed in what SADC discovered, that the election was credible and expressed the will of the
people?
MR. BOUCHER: Well, basically, we don't think it was free and fair. We don't think it was. So I would have to ask them
what they think their basis is for saying that. We've put out what we think is the basis for viewing this election as
seriously tainted and not free and fair.
Nicholas.
QUESTION: If I can just briefly move back to Israel, Richard, because it's been weeks back and forth, but yesterday
Ehud Olmert comes out and says one thing and then Scott McClellan comes out and basically says that what Olmert said was
not true. Can you clarify how clear has Israel been to you in terms of expansion of -- and those settlements outside
Jerusalem -- and what exactly you have told them in terms of their obligations and how we understand their obligations?
MR. BOUCHER: I'm not going to try to speak for the Israeli Government. Your colleague was asking me what -- how I would
describe the Israeli position at this point. And, frankly, that's not my job and it's not something I would intend to
do, especially at this moment in time. What is, I think, important to us is that there are obligations, as you know,
under the roadmap to cease settlement activity. These obligations have been stated publicly before by the Israeli
Government. We've been quite clear. We think their obligation is to stop settlement activity, period.
QUESTION: When the Prime Minister comes next week, are you going to look for any formal commitments from him?
MR. BOUCHER: Let's leave the Prime Minister's visit for next week. I'm not going to try to predict where things will be
when we get to -- when he comes.
Sir.
QUESTION: The third Arab Human Development Report released on Tuesday under UN auspices says that the occupation of
Iraq by the United States has increased the human suffering, and because the United States has failed to meet its
obligations to protect citizens, the country has seen an unprecedented loss of internal security. Do you have any
comment on that?
MR. BOUCHER: Well, on those particular comments we don't agree. We understand the security difficulties in Iraq, the
security difficulties that Iraqi people face. Unfortunately, they face those difficulties because of terrorists, because
of an insurgency that's both domestic and supported from the outside, and that's the problem. The Iraqi security
services, which are growing every day, and the U.S. and coalition partners are trying to deal with that problem, as the
Iraqi political system and people are trying to deal with that problem.
So I guess the first thing I'd have to say is that while there are statements like that in the report we don't agree
with, frankly, we don't -- nonetheless, I think our overall appraisal of the report is it fits in the pattern of the
2002, 2003 reports by Arab scholars where Arab scholars themselves identified impediments to development in the Middle
East, including the process of reform and change that need to be undertaken in the region. We think that these reports
have been very important, very positive -- the 2003 report, with the knowledge deficit. And we'll be reviewing this
report for what it says about the prospects for development and the obstacles to development in the Middle East. I would
say that the kind of in-depth assessments that have been done in these reports, and we assume -- it looks like is done
in this one, this new one as well, is part and parcel of the framework of our -- how we design projects and activities
under the Middle East Partnership Initiative and the Broader Middle East and North Africa Initiative. So we want to make
our programs compatible with the conclusions of the Arab scholars and we see this report as another milestone in being
able to focus on that.
QUESTION: The report added that the United States also undermined the international system by repeatedly using or
threatening to use its UN Security Council veto, enabling Israel to build new Jewish settlements and continue with its
barrier in the West Bank.
MR. BOUCHER: Well, once again, we think on these kind of gratuitous comments the report is wrong. We've been very clear
about our positions on the wall, the barrier. We've been very clear on our positions on settlement activity, as I just
was a few minutes ago. So I'm not -- you know, I'm not going to pretend that we embrace everything in this report, but
when it sticks to the job at hand, and that's to try to diagnose and identify the impediments to development in the Arab
world and the things that can and should be done in the Arab world in terms of reform and change, so we think these
reports have made a very important contribution and we look forward to reviewing this one in that regard.
Sir.
QUESTION: A follow-up.
MR. BOUCHER: Yeah.
QUESTION: Then what does the U.S. believe to be the greatest obstacle to development in the Arab world? Is it lack of
democracy? Is it a lack of economic opportunities?
MR. BOUCHER: You know, these reports have identified a number of things. They've identified a freedom deficit. They've
identified a knowledge deficit. They've identified a need for economic reform and change. They've identified a need for
allowing entrepreneurship and individual creativity to come forward in their own societies. So a lot of what we're
trying to do in this region, the programs we're trying to design for this region, are based on conclusions from these
reports. I don't think it's fair for us or anybody else to reduce this to the greatest single obstacle. There's a number
of things that need to be done that have been covered in previous reports and we look forward to seeing how these are
covered in this report, too.
QUESTION: You seem to agree with most of the -- in the report contains, if not all of it, with the exception of these
points that have to do with Israel and Iraq. But how much objectivity do you see in your response, or negative response,
to the Israeli part of that report? I mean, how much the credibility of the United States policy --
MR. BOUCHER: I have to say our response is totally and completely objective. If you want to ask me, I'll tell you.
QUESTION: But that's not the way it's going to be seen in the Middle East because that's the only area where you
disagree, you see.
MR. BOUCHER: We don't disagree that there is instability and security problems in Iraq, but a lot of --
QUESTION: Well, what about the Palestinian --
MR. BOUCHER: No, no, let's start with that one. We've spent a lot of time working on that and we've spent a lot of time
trying to resolve that. But where we disagree is what's the source of those problems. Those problems were not created by
the United States. Those problems were created by insurgents and terrorists and people who support them. Similarly, we
agree that the rights and needs of the Palestinian people have yet to flourish and have yet to be rewarded. Our
opposition to things like the barrier or to settlement activity has been very well known.
So the question is: What do the Palestinians need to be able to achieve their rights and their responsibility and be
able themselves to partake of the kind of future this Arab Human Development Report is looking for, for all Arabs,
including the Palestinians? And at that point, I think we do have a series of policies to try to support the
Palestinians, support the Palestinian Authority, in terms of creating the institutions of a Palestinian state, where we
have put a lot of money, a lot of effort, a lot of people on the ground to trying to help that process go forward.
So it's not even so much that we disagree with the problems. We tend to disagree with these sort of gratuitous
statements about where they come from. But many of these things, even in those sensitive areas, are things where we
ourselves are working on the problem, trying to help the Palestinians, trying to help the Iraqis get the rights and
freedoms that they deserve and get the prosperity and development that they deserve as well.
QUESTION: This has been all along historically the way that the people of the Middle East, they look at the way you are
dealing with the problems with the Israelis by relating international laws and doing what they are doing to the
Palestinians that you are not doing this, you're not criticizing, you're not doing anything vigorously or as vigorously
as you do when you're dealing with any policies that the Palestinians have or any other Arab government has. I mean, you
are very you are very lenient in pursuing those policies, whether it has to do with the war, whether it has to do with
the settlements of the Israeli --
MR. BOUCHER: I don't think I could have been clearer what our policies are in that regard. They've been very
consistent, they've been very forthrightly put, both in public and in private.
QUESTION: Iinaudible) anything about the plan for Syria to withdraw its troops and intelligence agencies from Lebanon?
The UN envoy -- there was no briefing yesterday. The UN envoy was saying whether it's going to work, they're going to
meet the UN requirements. Are you as positively optimistic?
MR. BOUCHER: Well, I didn't brief yesterday but the President did, and so I'd really stick with what the President said
yesterday afternoon with Prime Minister Yushchenko.
QUESTION: Is it credible, what he said? (Laughter.)
MR. BOUCHER: Yeah, I think it's -- it's pretty good. (Laughter.) He said, obviously, we appreciate the fact that the
Syrians have announced a date for withdrawal, but the important thing is that they do it and that we want to see it
happen. And we expect all troops and security forces to leave. And the second point I would make is that we want to see
the elections take place on time as well. The President made that point yesterday. This is an important part of
developing -- developments in Lebanon. The Syrians get out and then the Lebanese, in that new environment, be allowed to
choose their leadership and their government.
QUESTION: Will that be in time for that election?
MR. BOUCHER: They have said they will. Now, it's a matter of them actually doing it. That's pretty much where we've
always been. But at this moment, now that the fact that they have said they will, we look for them to actually do it.
Charlie.
QUESTION: Do you want to say anything about the new -- the implementation of new -- I don't know if restrictions is the
right word, but passport usage in Mexico and Canada?
MR. BOUCHER: No.
QUESTION: You don't want to say anything?
MR. BOUCHER: I think we've got a briefer that'll do that at 2 o'clock.
QUESTION: Well, that briefer is not scheduled to do that on camera. Could the briefer do that on camera since it's on
the record, and let the electronic media have an equal shot at it?
MR. BOUCHER: I'm -- I'll take it under advisement, but I don't have any plans right now to do that.
QUESTION: Is the Deputy Secretary, Mr. Zoellick, back to Washington yet?
MR. BOUCHER: Not yet. He's on his way back.
QUESTION: And he made some strong statements on the consequence if the EU were to lift the arms embargo to China.
MR. BOUCHER: Yep.
QUESTION: And can you tell us more about his meeting with Europeans and like how they left the subject? Did the
European promise they would consider postponing or --
MR. BOUCHER: Well, I guess I have to leave it with Deputy Secretary Zoellick's comments. I would note that his comments
are very similar to the things that Secretary Rice has said in the past, that we think that this kind of step would send
the wrong signal and would create a reaction in the United States. And Secretary Rice said that. Deputy Secretary
Zoellick has said that. As far as how his meetings went on the subject, again, where is the European position right now?
I really have to leave it more to them than to us, but I'll see if there's anything more when the Deputy Secretary gets
back.
Nicholas.
QUESTION: Richard, the Deputy Secretary yesterday or the day before talked about the impact of lifting the embargo on
U.S. trade with European companies and European countries. If you can't answer this now, can you try at some point in
the near future to give us a sense of what that will mean and -- except for Britain, which actually has some extensive
trade in that sphere, are there any countries that will be really affected by any action that the United States might
take in retaliation to lifting of the embargo?
MR. BOUCHER: I think you're sort of a few too many steps down the road. She was asking about the same comments. The
Deputy Secretary said there will be calls in Congress for restrictions on trade. But it's much too early to start
predicting what restrictions or whether they go into effect and what their effect might be.
QUESTION: Well, actually, what I'm asking is what do we have now in place with some of those countries in Europe in
terms of programs of military assistance or trade? And I -- probably the Pentagon might be a better place to ask about
this, but if there's an office in this building that deals with that and if you can help us in sort of the next few
days.
MR. BOUCHER: I think all this is available on the web but I'm not prepared to give you a country-by-country rundown of
all our military assistance programs in Europe right now. I don't keep that information in my head -- as much as I
probably should.
Peter.
QUESTION: Yeah, Richard, it's been several months since we've had a replacement for the NATO Ambassador, since Mr.
Burns is now here in Washington there. According to our Brussels bureau, there are some European diplomats who privately
are sort of remarking on the fact that it's been several months and don't see any prospect and was wondering if it
represents some sort of weakening of the U.S. commitment to NATO. Can you describe where we are in that process there
and how would you respond to these --
MR. BOUCHER: No. Never tried to describe where we are in the process of choosing ambassadors and I don't expect to.
When it's the appropriate time to make the appropriate announcement, the appropriate people will do that -- that being
the White House that announces Presidential appointments at the ambassadorial level. As far as whether it represents any
weakening of our commitment to NATO, the answer is absolutely none.
QUESTION: Is it unusual to have such a delay though in this particular post?
MR. BOUCHER: No, no. I'd say that maybe there are a few people in Brussels who don't understand how the U.S. system
works, but the bulk of them do and wouldn't find this is a very unusual situation.
QUESTION: I'll pass the word.
MR. BOUCHER: Pass the word on.
QUESTION: Does the U.S. intend to invite the UN Rapporteur on Torture to visit Guantanamo? He's expressed a desire to
come and I guess has met with U.S. officials about this.
MR. BOUCHER: I don't know. I'll have to check and see. You might check with Pentagon as well.
George.
QUESTION: Will the announcement by the Secretary at 4 o'clock be one of those announcements that's normally made by the
White House but which is being made by the State Department today?
MR. BOUCHER: Yeah.
QUESTION: Okay. Maybe it's another Ambassador.
MR. BOUCHER: I wouldn't put any bets on that.
(Laughter.)
QUESTION: Thank you.
MR. BOUCHER: Sir.
QUESTION: A Japanese newspaper reported that North Korea sent to -- sent a letter to KEDO and it suggest to break the
prior agreement to give diplomatic privileges for KEDO workers in North Korea and asks to talk with senior officers of
KEDO about this. And do you have any reaction?
MR. BOUCHER: I don't. I think, generally, you'd have to find out from the North Koreans if they sent such a letter and
you might check with KEDO to see if they have any reaction.
Thank you.
(The briefing was concluded at 12:52 p.m.)
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